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Oral history transcript, Paul H. Douglas and Emily Taft Douglas, interview 1 (I), 11/1/1974, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)

in a jeep. I can't drive; he drives very well. ETO: We were in Florida-0: Mexico, dear. ETD: Mexico, was it? Yes. Oh, yes. And Lady Bird's brother flew a plane in, didn't he? He said he was going there anyway, and he took us back to the ranch. 0: We took

Oral history transcript, Paul G. Hoffman, interview 1 (I), 7/28/1971, by Joe B. Frantz (Item)

Administration at all on any of this conservation? H: No. F: H: F: Not with Lady Bird? No. Mrs. Hoffman did. I didn't. You urged in '68 the doubling of aid from the rich nations. What kind of reception did you get to. that? I don't know about aid generally

Oral history transcript, Richard H. Rovere, interview 1 (I), 5/6/1969, by Paige E. Mulhollan (Item)

have much use for him, and he wound up as Lady Bird's clerk writing memos on hm'l the Library should function and that sort of thing. VJhen I say Johnson destroyed him I don't really mean there was any deliberate attempt. I don't think Johnson really

Oral history transcript, Gale McGee, interview 2 (II), 3/10/1969, by Joe B. Frantz (Item)

the Potomac on the Presidential yacht. But those were some of our warmest moments with Lady Bird and the President and some of the most refreshing, some of the most enduring-F: Did you talk policy, or was it personal, or--? M: Oh, a lot of it was kind

Oral history transcript, Henry Hall Wilson, interview 1 (I), 4/11/1973, by Joe B. Frantz (Item)

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Oral history transcript, Russell B. Long, interview 1 (I), 2/22/1977, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)

://discoverlbj.org/exhibits/show/loh/oh ORAL HISTORY TRANSCRIPT Lyndon B. Johnson Library Oral Histories [NAID 24617781] Sen. Russell Long--I--8 for it. Then he headed for another man like a bird dog after quail, and that man stood up and changed his vote from

Oral history transcript, William McChesney Martin, interview 1 (I), 5/8/1987, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)

?], and I've gotten along reasonably well--in fact, I consider her a good friend of mine--with Lady Bird, who was there. I got in and she was very gracious to me. They had a marine there and she suggested that I'd like a little coffee and something or other. I

Oral history transcript, Clinton P. Anderson, interview 1 (I), 5/20/1969, by T.H. Baker (Item)

of accepting? A: No. I went over to his room, and he still was in a bathrobe and so was Lady Bird and they were both busying around. I finally said to him that I thought it would be a mistake if he ran for Vice President, under these circumstances

Oral history transcript, Harry C. McPherson, interview 6 (VI), 5/16/1985, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)

for regulating the billboards at all, do you recall? M: You know, I don't know. Later on, of course, with Lady Bird's involvement he became much more of a controller of billboards, but I don't know. My guess is he didn't have any particularly strong views. He

Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 3 (III), 7/18/1969, by Joe B. Frantz and Paige E. Mulhollan (Item)

wanted to do, go down and see Lady Bird for Labor Day. He left and we had to do some work over that weekend with Abel's executive board. He had a batch of negotiators down there but we had to make damn sure that everybody would stand behind him

Oral history transcript, Hale Boggs, interview 2 (II), 3/27/1969, by T.H. Baker (Item)

of political courage to do that-- to make a speech like that in Louisiana. Did you know beforehand that it was going to be that kind of speech? Bo: I had no idea what the President was going to talk about. I had been in charge of the Lady Bird train--we met

Oral history transcript, Sam Houston Johnson, interview 6 (VI), 7/13/1976, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)

McKenzie gave a big party out at the Shoreham [HotelJ in which he, of course, invited me and my sister and my date and Lyndon and Lady Bird--they hadn't been up there but just a few months--and Senator Welly Hopkins, who was working in Washington

Oral history transcript, Luther E. Jones, Jr., interview 2 (II), 10/14/1977, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)

and wanting to get married, and I suppose that would cloud any man's vision. (Laughter) Bird was much nicer than any law school. G: You would go to class together in the evenings, I guess? J: Yes. Then we'd come back to the office or go home

Oral history transcript, George E. Reedy, interview 8 (VIII), 8/17/1983, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)

of that nature, we would not even turn that letter over to the agency as we would with any other letter. G: Why were those two singled out? R: Well, Federal Conmunications Commission for the obvious reason of Lady Bird's holdings in radio, KTBC. The tax

Oral history transcript, Richard Morehead, interview 1 (I), 6/26/1987, by Christie L. Bourgeois (Item)

[inaudible]--? M: No, I knew who he was. Everybody in Austin knew everybody else in the early 1930s, and he had an office here. Lady Bird, his wife, and I were in the university together, but I really don't remember much about her. She was--I think she

Oral history transcript, Leslie Carpenter, interview 1 (I), 2/6/1969, by Joe B. Frantz (Item)

Personal observations of LBJ and JFK before their White House years, especially LBJ in the congress; LBJ's Senate campaigns; the 1960 campaign; "Whistle Stop" campaign of Lady Bird; the Bobby Baker scandal; Rayburn-LBJ relationship; LBJ

Oral history transcript, Dudley T. Dougherty, interview 1 (I), 12/27/1971, by Joe B. Frantz (Item)

could use if I wanted to use it, and I did not use it because I didn't want to be in a caucus squabble that was already a foregone conclusion and endless. But I came out of the caucus and I met some lady I was introduced to in a hotel, a prominent club

Oral history transcript, Henry H. Fowler, interview 2 (II), 4/22/1969, by David G. McComb (Item)

LBJ as VP; 1964 election; Secretary of the Treasury; LBJ as Chief Executive; assessment of LBJ’s personality; contact with Lady Bird; analysis of 3/31 announcement; LBJ’s faults and virtues; links with the business community; aluminum; Troika
with Mrs. Johnson, not only in the normal social activities that are part of the White House, but also in such things as the Lady Bird train trip in the course of the campaign. train. Mrs. Fowler played a fairly key role on that And in the beautification

Oral history transcript, Gale McGee, interview 1 (I), 2/10/1969, by Joe B. Frantz (Item)

to get out of the Presidency in order to live. I think that he--at least he made an occasion to say to me, as did Lady Bird, on more than one instance that they really believed he wouldn't live through a second term, and that he did love his family

Oral history transcript, James H. Blundell, interview 1 (I), 10/29/1974, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)

talking, and it was beautiful. ever heard . It was as good an introduction as I So he introduced Senator .Tohnson and Lady Bird and the daughters, and Johnson started his speech before: Kennedy ever came out o£ the studio . He was still talking, and I

Oral history transcript, Aaron E. Henry, interview 1 (I), 9/12/1970, by T.H. Baker (Item)

there, and Roy Wilkins sitting beside her, and a little picture of Medgar up in the corner. I at first rejoiced to see my folks, you know. And then to hear the announcer say, "Ladies and gentlemen, we had already scheduled Miss Horne for the Today program

Oral history transcript, Sharon Francis, interview 2 (II), 6/4/1969, by Dorothy Pierce (McSweeny) (Item)

[For interviews 1 - 4] Biographical information; Stewart Udall; The Quiet Crisis; Lady Bird; conservation and beautification; Committee for a More Beautiful Capital; East Wing; Lady Bird’s trips; White House Conference on Natural Beauty; Model
of either. Then he said, "Those gals who work for Bird in the East Wing sure like you, Walter." Now, as a result of the bus tour we had in the spring, Mrs. Douglas Dillon sent a check to Mrs. Johnson for twenty-five thousand dollars, saying she hoped

Oral history transcript, Laurance Rockefeller, interview 1 (I), 8/5/1969, by Joe B. Frantz (Item)

Role and activities of the Citizens Committee on Outdoor Recreation Resources Review Commission; LBJ and Lady Bird's role in beautification; Mr. Henry Diamond was present and spoke during the interview
President's wives: Mrs. Rusk was the only one not to accept. We got into this plane with them and made three trips. Well, lim very aviation-minded. But when Stewart Udall asked me to go walking and meet the ladies later, I said, "If anything happens

Oral history transcript, John W. Macy, interview 4 (IV), 7/21/1969, by David G. McComb (Item)

of LBJ as a public servant; LBJ’s working habits and personality; Lady Bird; transition from Johnson to Nixon administration.

Oral history transcript, Marjorie Lawson, interview 1 (I), 6/11/1986, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)

, and in a sense, I'm an old lady, and you know old ladies forget things. (Laughter) So it has been wonderful to review the material that you sent me, because it has helped me recall a lot of incidents and fond memories. I first knew Mr. Johnson as vice president

Oral history transcript, Robert G. (Bobby) Baker, interview 6 (VI), 7/24/1984, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)

wore that brace. He was a crybaby. He did not sick well, if you understand what I mean. If he was feeling bad or had a cold or had pain, everybody in town knew it from Lady Bird to his help to all of his staff. G: During that time that he

Oral history transcript, Jake Jacobsen, interview 4 (IV), 3/28/1988, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)

of--what was it, the dove? And what was the other bird? G: The hawk. J: He was a pretty big hawk. G: Was he? J: Yes. G: Who were the doves in 1965 and 1966? J: I don't think anybody among his close advisers was a dove. I can't really remember. I

Oral history transcript, Herbert Jenkins, interview 1 (I), 5/14/1969, by T.H. Baker (Item)

://discoverlbj.org/exhibits/show/loh/oh Jenkins.-- I -- 18 On more than one occasion, I'd have somebody in this department say to me, "One of the FBI agents suggested to us last n.ight that Dr. King and a lady, or a·woman, was in a certain room in a certain hotel

Oral history transcript, John Fritz Koeniger, interview 2 (II), 11/17/1981, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)

in the office, and frequently--no, not frequently, but from time to time, Lady Bird helped us some in the office. worked in the office, I believe. Sherman's wife I don't remember whether she worked full-time or part-time. But I want to tell you one thing

Oral history transcript, D.B. Hardeman, interview 1 (I), 2/26/1969, by T.H. Baker (Item)

knew Lady Bird in school. I think I met Lady Bird probably about 1933, because I was going with a girl who lived in the same boarding house with her, and I knew all the girls in the boarding house. I did not meet Lyndon Johnson until after he came

Oral history transcript, Charles B. Lipsen, interview 1 (I), 6/13/1975, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)

work; Townsville, Australia; West Virginia; Secret Service; Australian trip; Lady Bird; Lipsen’s relationship with LBJ.

Oral history transcript, Leonard H. Marks, interview 1 (I), 6/15/1970, by Joe B. Frantz (Item)

to make." Mr. Johnson, then Senator Johnson, said, "Well, it is your money, Lady Bird, but I have to say if we are going to make a contribution to the community, this is the time to do it. it may turn out to be as successful as f'larks indicates

Oral history transcript, Lawrence F. O'Brien, interview 5 (V), 12/5/1985, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)

Oral history transcript, Edward Joseph, interview 2 (II), 2/23/1978, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)

want to take part of it?'" It was the same way when he got the TV franchise. same way. He talked to me about that. It was the We'd go out to 1901 Dillman. He'd send Lady Bird for hamburgers, and we'd talk about the thing. was the same thing

Oral history transcript, William S. White, interview 2 (II), 3/10/1969, by Dorothy Pierce (McSweeny) (Item)

Criticism of LBJ’s domestic programs and Vietnam War credibility gap; polls; DNC; Vietnam settlement; appraisal of LBJ; relationship with Lady Bird.

Oral history transcript, McGeorge Bundy, interview 2 (II), 2/17/1969, by Paige E. Mulhollan (Item)

] Fanfani initiative of the fall of 1965? Was that a more serious one? B: No, I don't think that any of the things that came through the Italians--the fellow that was principally involved in that was a bird named [Giorgio] La Pira, wasn't it, the mayor

Oral history transcript, William Hunter McLean, interview 1 (I), 5/11/1971, by David G. McComb (Item)

Oral history transcript, James C. Wright, Jr., interview 1 (I), 6/30/1969, by Joe B. Frantz (Item)

a lady by the name of Mrs. Jack [Margaret] Carter, a long time friend of mine; then, Mr. Johnson, I think, or some of his people, moved in the delegate selection committee to replace her, strike her name and replace her with a young lawyer named John

Oral history transcript, Kenneth P. O'Donnell, interview 1 (I), 7/23/1969, by Paige E. Mulhollan (Item)

Oral history transcript, George E. Reedy, interview 15 (XV), 6/23/1984, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)

business. The only other difficulty there is that many of these--Dave Dubinsky and the International Ladies Garment Workers Union were also affected by these provisions even though the closed shop was not quite that important to them. But the big problem

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